Why Cloud LLMs for QWED Verification?
TL;DR: Verification is a critical task requiring maximum accuracy. Cloud LLMs (GPT-4, Claude) deliver 90-95% accuracy vs 70-80% for local models, making them ideal for production verification.
🎯 The Core Problem
Verification requires two things:
- LLM understands the query (natural language → structured reasoning)
- Symbolic verifier proves the answer (SymPy, Z3, AST)
If the LLM gets step 1 wrong, verification fails even with perfect symbolic math.
📊 LLM Accuracy Comparison
Math Verification Example
Query: "What is the integral of 2x?"
| Model | Type | Accuracy | Typical Response |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPT-4o-mini | Cloud | ~95% | "x² + C" ✅ |
| Claude 3 Haiku | Cloud | ~93% | "x² + C" ✅ |
| Llama 3 8B | Local | ~75% | Sometimes "x² + C" ✅, sometimes "2x²/2" ❌ |
| Mistral 7B | Local | ~70% | Inconsistent, may confuse derivative/integral |
Why This Matters
When QWED verifies:
1. LLM says: "x² + C"
2. SymPy computes: integrate(2*x, x) = x**2
3. QWED compares: ✅ MATCH!
If LLM is wrong:
1. LLM says: "2x²" (incorrect)
2. SymPy computes: x**2
3. QWED: ❌ NO MATCH → Verification fails
Result: User sees failure, even though QWED's symbolic engine is correct!
🤔 When to Use Each
| Use Case | Local LLM (Ollama) | Cloud LLM (OpenAI/Anthropic) |
|---|---|---|
| Development/Testing | ✅ Free, fast iteration | ⚠️ Costs add up |
| Production (Critical) | ❌ Lower accuracy | ✅ Recommended |
| Privacy-Sensitive Data | ✅ 100% local + PII masking | ⚠️ Use with PII masking |
| Cost-Sensitive | ✅ $0/month | ⚠️ ~$5-50/month |
| High-Stakes Decisions | ❌ Risk of errors | ✅ Recommended |
💡 QWED's Hybrid Approach
Best Practice: Use both strategically
Development Setup (Free)
from qwed_sdk import QWEDLocal
# Local LLM for development
client_dev = QWEDLocal(
base_url="http://localhost:11434/v1", # Ollama
model="llama3",
cache=True # Cache responses
)
# Test your queries
result = client_dev.verify("What is 2+2?")
Cost: $0/month
Use for: Prototyping, experimentation, learning
Production Setup (Reliable)
import os
from qwed_sdk import QWEDLocal
# Cloud LLM for production
client_prod = QWEDLocal(
provider="openai",
api_key=os.getenv("OPENAI_API_KEY"),
model="gpt-4o-mini",
mask_pii=True, # Privacy protection
cache=True # 50-80% cost savings!
)
# Critical verification
result = client_prod.verify("Verify calculation: ...")
Cost: ~$5-10/month (with caching!)
Use for: Production, high-stakes decisions
💰 Cost Analysis
Local LLM (Ollama)
- Setup: 10 minutes (download model)
- Monthly Cost: $0
- Accuracy: 70-80% on math/logic
- Privacy: 100% local
- Best for: Development, testing, learning
Cloud LLM (OpenAI GPT-4o-mini)
- Setup: 2 minutes (API key)
- Monthly Cost: $5-10 (with caching)
- Accuracy: 90-95% on math/logic
- Privacy: Use PII masking
- Best for: Production, critical tasks
With QWED Caching (Smart Cost Savings)
# First query: Hits LLM (costs $$)
result1 = client.verify("What is 2+2?")
# Same query within 24 hours: Cache hit (FREE!)
result2 = client.verify("What is 2+2?") # $0 cost!
Real Savings: 50-80% cost reduction on repeated queries!
🔒 Privacy Considerations
Local LLM Advantages
✅ 100% private - data never leaves your machine
✅ No API keys - no third-party access
✅ Compliance - easier GDPR/HIPAA compliance
Cloud LLM with PII Masking
client = QWEDLocal(
provider="openai",
mask_pii=True, # Auto-mask emails, SSNs, etc.
pii_entities=["EMAIL_ADDRESS", "CREDIT_CARD", "US_SSN"]
)
# Sensitive data protected!
result = client.verify("User email: john@example.com, calculate 2+2")
# OpenAI sees: "User email: <EMAIL_ADDRESS>, calculate 2+2"
Result: Cloud accuracy + local privacy! 🔒
🎯 Recommendation by Use Case
Healthcare (HIPAA)
# Option 1: Local LLM (most private)
client = QWEDLocal(
base_url="http://localhost:11434/v1",
model="llama3"
)
# Option 2: Cloud + PII masking (more accurate)
client = QWEDLocal(
provider="openai",
mask_pii=True,
pii_entities=["PERSON", "US_SSN", "MEDICAL_LICENSE"]
)
Recommendation: Cloud + PII masking for critical diagnoses
Finance (PCI-DSS)
client = QWEDLocal(
provider="openai",
mask_pii=True,
pii_entities=["CREDIT_CARD", "IBAN_CODE"]
)
Recommendation: Cloud + PII masking (accuracy matters for money!)
Enterprise (General)
# Development
dev_client = QWEDLocal(base_url="http://localhost:11434/v1", model="llama3")
# Production
prod_client = QWEDLocal(provider="openai", mask_pii=True, cache=True)
Recommendation: Hybrid approach
🚀 The QWED Advantage
Even with local LLMs, QWED catches errors!
Scenario: Local LLM Makes Mistake
client = QWEDLocal(base_url="http://localhost:11434/v1", model="llama3")
# Llama 3 might say: "Derivative of x² is x" (WRONG!)
result = client.verify("What is the derivative of x²?")
# QWED's symbolic verification:
# SymPy: diff(x**2, x) = 2*x
# LLM said: "x"
# QWED: ❌ NO MATCH!
# result.verified = False
User sees: "Verification failed - LLM answer doesn't match symbolic proof"
But:
- More failures = worse UX
- Cloud LLMs = fewer verification failures = better UX
📈 Accuracy in Practice
From QWED internal testing:
| Domain | Local LLM (Llama 3 8B) | Cloud LLM (GPT-4o-mini) |
|---|---|---|
| Basic Math | 85% | 98% |
| Calculus | 75% | 95% |
| Logic (SAT) | 70% | 93% |
| Code Security | 80% | 96% |
Takeaway: Cloud LLMs reduce verification failures by 15-25%!
🎓 Bottom Line
Start with Local LLM
# Install Ollama
curl -fsSL https://ollama.com/install.sh | sh
# Download model
ollama pull llama3
# Use with QWED
python -c "from qwed_sdk import QWEDLocal; \
client = QWEDLocal(base_url='http://localhost:11434/v1', model='llama3'); \
print(client.verify('2+2'))"
Perfect for: Learning, prototyping, hobby projects
Scale to Cloud LLM
# Get API key from OpenAI
export OPENAI_API_KEY="sk-..."
# Use with QWED
python -c "from qwed_sdk import QWEDLocal; \
client = QWEDLocal(provider='openai', mask_pii=True, cache=True); \
print(client.verify('2+2'))"
Perfect for: Production, enterprise, critical decisions
🔗 Related Documentation
- LLM Configuration Guide - Complete LLM setup
- PII Masking Guide - Privacy protection
- Caching Guide - Cost savings
❓ FAQ
Q: Can I use Llama 3 70B instead of GPT-4?
A: Yes! Larger local models (70B+) approach cloud accuracy but require significant hardware (40GB+ VRAM).
Q: Is Ollama really free?
A: Yes! Fully open source. You just need hardware to run it.
Q: What about Google Gemini?
A: QWED supports Gemini! Similar accuracy to GPT-4/Claude.
Q: Can I switch between local and cloud?
A: Absolutely! Change the provider parameter anytime.
Q: Do I need PII masking with local LLMs?
A: Not necessarily, but it's still good practice for audit trails.
The choice is yours - QWED works with both! 🚀
Recommendation: Start local (free), scale to cloud (reliable) when it matters.